I still think it's crazy you're falling for these pull plays

It's kinda embarrassing, tbh

[Previously in 'I still think it's crazy': I still think it's crazy you're not imitating Manu and Dylan]

One thing I've never understood about frisbee defenses is how consistently they manage to let the offense get big yards off of pull plays. I've seen some suggestions this may be getting better over time, but it's still a big enough problem that I could easily fill this article with examples, just from the last few years, without even needing to work hard to find them.

Does your team have pull plays? If they do, I bet they have at least one that involves someone going deep. Guess what? Other teams are gonna do that, too. Maybe you should try to not let them do that!

Play good help defense. Play some sort of "junk" or "last back" defense for the first couple passes. Or simply play defense like you've actually seen a pull play before—admit to yourself that you can't stop both the 15-yard under and the 60-yard huck. And guess what? You'd much rather let your person catch a wide-open 15-yard under than let them catch a wide-open 60-yard huck. So few frisbee players seem to actually understand this. Sag off a little, for god's sake.

(On a serious note: obviously I understand defense is a balancing act between defending the goal and still applying enough pressure on short passes that teams can't just walk it down the field for a score. Help defense is the biggest answer here. But even without help defense, I do think too many players, even at the elite level, play defense like they don't fully understand that it's only in the endzone that the other team gets a point for catching a pass. Make the offense actually work for it — especially when afterthe pull an offense can pretty much guarantee tp can get the disc in the hands of their best deep thrower.)

There isn't really anything else worth saying about this topic, it's not that complicated, so from here on I'll just embarrass you with a few examples:

Did you know that teams will run deep cuts off the pull out of a ho stack? Sometimes they'll even do it with the best player in college ultimate:

I thought Leo Gordon was such a nice guy, why would he be so mean to a defense?

Not only will teams have someone cut deep from the sideline in a ho stack (as above), they've been known to have the cutters in the middle of the ho stack cut deep, too. So devious and unexpected!

Some teams have even been known to cut deep from a side stack isolation. This is an unbelievable innovation that I'm sure you're completely unprepared for:

Some teams have been known to use something call a "vert stack", as well. And guess what? They've also been known to...have people cut deep off the pull. Whoa. Here's one from the front of the stack:

Did you know it's even possible to cut deep from the middle of a vert stack? Incredible, truly incredible, I never would've guessed that John Randolph might try to score a goal:

I recently learned that even teams in Europe have been known to send someone deep on pull plays. I bet you didn't know that, because even European defenses don't seem to know that:

Not only will they do this from vert stack, they'll do it from a ho stack, too. Those Europeans, so clever!:

I think that's just about all the examples I have for you today...

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No, wait, I'm now getting some late-breaking news that it's even possible to cut deep on a pull play when starting from the handler space. Who'd've thunk it???

(Surprisingly I didn't have clips handy of someone cutting deep from the back of a vert stack. But I'm going to guess that, even without me providing video evidence, you're aware that people have been known to cut deep from the back of a vert stack.)

Thank you for reading this public service announcement. Please play frisbee like you've seen a pull play before.